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		<title>By: Rae Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41608</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, seriously people. I don&#039;t have time for this shit. Regardless of my personal opinion of Doug, which was formed mainly from this blog post in which I feel he acted like an ass, let me be clear....

BEING SUED OR CALLED IN AS A MATERIAL WITNESS TO A LAWSUIT DOES NOT MAKE ME MONEY 

So, I don&#039;t have time to deal with what I feel are some adult style temper tantrums. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this post. Unfortunately, for the first time ever, I will have to lock comments on a blog post of mine. Simply because I do not have the time for shit that doesn&#039;t make me money. I *wish* I had more time right now, but I don&#039;t, so locking must be done.

Additionally, I will have to edit the comment above that accuses someone of buying about 8K worth of links from a broker since I don&#039;t have the screenshots to prove it.

As one last comment though... Doug, I did find it humorous that you defended your legal position by quoting a website that also has published statements on it that refer to you as a &quot;douche bag&quot;: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jehochman/Archive_2

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, seriously people. I don&#8217;t have time for this shit. Regardless of my personal opinion of Doug, which was formed mainly from this blog post in which I feel he acted like an ass, let me be clear&#8230;.</p>
<p>BEING SUED OR CALLED IN AS A MATERIAL WITNESS TO A LAWSUIT DOES NOT MAKE ME MONEY </p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t have time to deal with what I feel are some adult style temper tantrums. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this post. Unfortunately, for the first time ever, I will have to lock comments on a blog post of mine. Simply because I do not have the time for shit that doesn&#8217;t make me money. I *wish* I had more time right now, but I don&#8217;t, so locking must be done.</p>
<p>Additionally, I will have to edit the comment above that accuses someone of buying about 8K worth of links from a broker since I don&#8217;t have the screenshots to prove it.</p>
<p>As one last comment though&#8230; Doug, I did find it humorous that you defended your legal position by quoting a website that also has published statements on it that refer to you as a &#8220;douche bag&#8221;: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jehochman/Archive_2" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jehochman/Archive_2</a></p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41607</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug good to know you take legal advice from a publicly editable source, I hope your other research and information comes from much more vetted and trusted locations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug good to know you take legal advice from a publicly editable source, I hope your other research and information comes from much more vetted and trusted locations.</p>
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		<title>By: corey</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41604</link>
		<dc:creator>corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG PUSSY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG PUSSY</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Heil</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41601</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Heil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meaning the google guidelines are all we really need to follow. They are very clear and getting more clear all the time.

Hey Steve from &quot;livecustomer&quot;. I&#039;d love for you to prove your statement as true since you clearly stated it as being true. I didn&#039;t see a smilie or anything else other than you making a clear statement. That&#039;s not good bud.

I think the owner, Rae Hoffman, of this blog needs to delete that comment. I&#039;m asking you to do so. 

The wikipedia defines it as this:

&quot;In many, though not all, legal systems, statements presented as fact must be false to be defamatory. Proving a defamatory statement to be true is often the best defense against a prosecution for libel. Statements of opinion that cannot be proven true or false will likely need to apply some other kind of defense. The use of the defense of justification has dangers, however. If the defendant libels the plaintiff and then runs the defense of truth and fails, he may be said to have aggravated the harm.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meaning the google guidelines are all we really need to follow. They are very clear and getting more clear all the time.</p>
<p>Hey Steve from &#8220;livecustomer&#8221;. I&#8217;d love for you to prove your statement as true since you clearly stated it as being true. I didn&#8217;t see a smilie or anything else other than you making a clear statement. That&#8217;s not good bud.</p>
<p>I think the owner, Rae Hoffman, of this blog needs to delete that comment. I&#8217;m asking you to do so. </p>
<p>The wikipedia defines it as this:</p>
<p>&#8220;In many, though not all, legal systems, statements presented as fact must be false to be defamatory. Proving a defamatory statement to be true is often the best defense against a prosecution for libel. Statements of opinion that cannot be proven true or false will likely need to apply some other kind of defense. The use of the defense of justification has dangers, however. If the defendant libels the plaintiff and then runs the defense of truth and fails, he may be said to have aggravated the harm.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam I Am</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41600</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam I Am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s Doug after that post by Steve? LOL

Great post Rae !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Doug after that post by Steve? LOL</p>
<p>Great post Rae !</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Paston</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41598</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Paston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it terrible that, aside from the way he presents his argument, I agree with some of what Doug suggests?  Specifically this bit:

&quot;If you want to abide by what Google says, abide by it. If you donâ€™t want to abide by what Google or Matt says,â€¦ donâ€™t. No one is telling you or anyone else what to do with your â€œownâ€ websites. Just like none of us can â€œtellâ€ Google what to do with their website. Why do you feel Google is â€œtellingâ€ you anything? You either keep on buying links or you donâ€™t. Itâ€™s really that simple. Google really does not care if you are buying and selling links. They simply react accordingly in order to protect their SERPS. Do you as wish. The notion that Google is somehow telling websites how to run their own sites is absurd. Do as you wish. Google will do as they wish as well.&quot;

In my opinion, they are simply saying what results in success within their own product.  Imagine if DisneyLand suggested that anyone visiting should wear ball gowns and bow ties.  Clearly, this is an unreasonable request, but they wouldn&#039;t be suggesting that people should abide by such rules in every amusement park around the world, just their own.

If they want to damage their own product, and if you think they are, let them do so.  There will be others to eagerly gobble up their market share.

Yes, asking users of the system to &#039;snitch&#039; on those not abiding by their rules is wrong, but the basic rule that they set is entirely their right.

Feel free to tell me to fuck off :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it terrible that, aside from the way he presents his argument, I agree with some of what Doug suggests?  Specifically this bit:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to abide by what Google says, abide by it. If you donâ€™t want to abide by what Google or Matt says,â€¦ donâ€™t. No one is telling you or anyone else what to do with your â€œownâ€ websites. Just like none of us can â€œtellâ€ Google what to do with their website. Why do you feel Google is â€œtellingâ€ you anything? You either keep on buying links or you donâ€™t. Itâ€™s really that simple. Google really does not care if you are buying and selling links. They simply react accordingly in order to protect their SERPS. Do you as wish. The notion that Google is somehow telling websites how to run their own sites is absurd. Do as you wish. Google will do as they wish as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my opinion, they are simply saying what results in success within their own product.  Imagine if DisneyLand suggested that anyone visiting should wear ball gowns and bow ties.  Clearly, this is an unreasonable request, but they wouldn&#8217;t be suggesting that people should abide by such rules in every amusement park around the world, just their own.</p>
<p>If they want to damage their own product, and if you think they are, let them do so.  There will be others to eagerly gobble up their market share.</p>
<p>Yes, asking users of the system to &#8217;snitch&#8217; on those not abiding by their rules is wrong, but the basic rule that they set is entirely their right.</p>
<p>Feel free to tell me to fuck off :o)</p>
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		<title>By: corey</title>
		<link>http://www.sugarrae.com/google-doesnt-know-the-face-of-evil/#comment-41597</link>
		<dc:creator>corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rae:

I agree with the previous comment about you and your site kicking total ass, and I wish you updated more often as well.

@Doug: wtf are you man...

3:15 PM = &quot;You all do not realize that Matt Cutts stated on his blog about two years that paid links were going to be looked at from now on. That was two years ago Rae. Where was everyone in this industry back then? LOL&quot;

5:54 PM = &quot;NO one in my community really cares about what Google says or does not say.&quot;

That is one sweet 180, Doug. Where&#039;d you learn to skate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rae:</p>
<p>I agree with the previous comment about you and your site kicking total ass, and I wish you updated more often as well.</p>
<p>@Doug: wtf are you man&#8230;</p>
<p>3:15 PM = &#8220;You all do not realize that Matt Cutts stated on his blog about two years that paid links were going to be looked at from now on. That was two years ago Rae. Where was everyone in this industry back then? LOL&#8221;</p>
<p>5:54 PM = &#8220;NO one in my community really cares about what Google says or does not say.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is one sweet 180, Doug. Where&#8217;d you learn to skate?</p>
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		<title>By: Rae Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rae Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd - if it helps, my name is homage to Sugar Ray Leonard and not the band ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd &#8211; if it helps, my name is homage to Sugar Ray Leonard and not the band ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: pmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, 

(cough)Thanks for your well reasoned arguments. You are a true legend. Please subscribe me to your newsletter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, </p>
<p>(cough)Thanks for your well reasoned arguments. You are a true legend. Please subscribe me to your newsletter.</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;NO one in my community really cares about what Google says or does not say. We simply abide by the guidelines that websites set for their own sites.

Wow that&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever seen someone contradict themselves within one sentence ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;NO one in my community really cares about what Google says or does not say. We simply abide by the guidelines that websites set for their own sites.</p>
<p>Wow that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve ever seen someone contradict themselves within one sentence &#8230;.</p>
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